Chinese Street Fighting Kung Fu San Soo

Jeff,

I am tired of this ongoing problem, I want to spend some time preparing for the upcoming seminar to assist Sharon's family, we all need help sometime in our lives, they could use some help now.  This is my attempt to end the hassel with the other website.

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Mike,

Nobody wants to get in the fray, I sure don't, I decided to change my posting to news about upcoming events, interesting finds, etc. but the constant bantering is not what I want to do.  I have not had contact with these guys for years, I responded only when I am getting bashed on You Tube for disrespecting Jimmy.  The time it takes to answer those things, takes away from my goals of completing two more books and going back into my written archives to retrieve lessons that have never been seen since they were taught.

I will offer this,

I do not like or respect Jon or Robert, I do not know why they continue to rehash old issues, surly they must understand that what they do will never change my mind, I will do what I want with my lessons, films and videos, it is my business.  I have decided not to respond to bashing, I also have decided not to attack either of them on the web.  So the ball is in their court, forget me, let me do my work, do whatever they do and maybe San Soo will reap some benefit.  If they do not wish to do this, then I guess they will have to go on bashing, the only difference is that the community will know who is in continuing the conflict, it is their choice.

I will post this on your site just in case they don't see it on JPs site.

Ron Gatewood

Hey Ron no worries.  Mike does read this board and knows I will not filter any responses or posting unless it is down right degrading or too much foul language.  It is a great hing you are doing for the Wikels, the fact is others will just give you crap for it and they are dead wrong is something that will come out of th key board bandits.  To heck with what they think, stay positive look toward the future, for you see some of the folks came out on this last thread and the one with Russ stating he filmed Right along with and Joe.  No one responded to them so it shows they are on a vendetta towards you or just bullies. My attitude is lets play and to hell with the none sense.  Verbal and written combat needs to go away, like the old days meet me at the play ground at 3 wes' gonna fight, get it over with.   As  said prior to much talk no freaking action and the bandits think their name is Captain Kick your Ass with my key board.

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Jeffrey P. Cornelius SR.
San Soo Michigan
5th degree black

I'm glad Ron is doing a seminar and hopefully its a success. As I've said I have no alligiencies here. I simply responded to what I saw as a misinterpetation of a post. I was correct in posting. I have no axe to grind with Ron or the san soo community.

Although I'd been on the various san soo forums for years, I've been particularly active in the last month or so. I had actively been visiting schools to join and train again. In light of the posts in the last month or so and reaffirmed on the Tennessee board today, I have decided not to pursue KFSS at this time and am looking in other directions. I don't feel that any of my posts were disrespectful or disparaging to KFSS. The fact that they have created as much controversy as they have leads me to believe that I have a different mentality then most of the KFSS community. Though I know many who share it.Maybe in the future that may change, but for now I don't feel its right for me.

I have asked to be unsubscribed from the Tennessee forum. Though I will keep my subsciptions at the American board and JP's board for a bit. As I'm not planning to train in the art, I don't expect to be posting much. 

I appreciated the conversation

Unstpabl1/actnmike/mike 

 

 

 

 

Hey Mike hate to see you go and I hope you did not take what I had personally.  No names were mention for I think it is futile to do so for there are many to include Ron and myself.  What I mean by key board bandits, is the same as a hit run criminal, that hit and leave it for a while.  Come and do it again and agian until they get board with it.  You have valid question as every one else.  In fact the last one about the knees was pretty cool there were a lot of great response to it.  If you notice folks were giving examples, even Brian took a stab at it. Mine was short usualy I try to answer them as when ever possible, work prevails and some times I lose my train of thought and have of what I thought about did not get written at all.

I wish you the best of luck in which road you take for I know you will find the one that suits you.  Stay cool and stop in every now and than; as far as Brian and I, we both get a little worked up most of the time it is for no reason other to keep things going.  He is also one of the black belts that had assisted Chuck during my training with Chuck and now it is just Chuck.   Some times things are read into and do not see the true meaning of the written words.  To be honest you were not the one who I expected to respond to this posting. 

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Jeffrey P. Cornelius SR.
San Soo Michigan
5th degree black

Thanks Jeff. I appreciate the good wishes. I'm very happy to see the responses to the xstep question. Their excellent. I'm not thin skinned and can give as good as I take in the forum wars I'm also not a drama queen. I don't thrive on petty stuff nor am I playing a martyr. My decision was based on many things, not one persons response but the overall mentality of the board.  None of the decision was personally caused by anyone. I have my beliefs in the system and my misgivings. For whatever reasons the responses to my posts pushed me toward the misgiving or minus side. Just that simple.

The response to the original post of mine about teaching and mastery has bugged since day 1. I know that stuff to be true and live it. Doing anything against it would be compromising princples. The subsequent conversations only seemed to confirm that something wasn't going to mesh.  I just got tired of it all Sometimes its not worth fitting a round peg in a square hole. So its better to find the progressive people or retire to the golf course. Not a big deal. The responses  today on Chuck and JPs boards just made it apparent, its time to leave

I said nothing on any forum that I wouldn't say in person, offer no apologies as I find nothing said disrespectful and figure its simply not the place for me. I made the decision a few days ago and was just going to fade away, but a few things changed that today.

Good Luck with the school and thanks for all your help

Mike 

 

 

 

 

I appreciate your response and wish you well.  Some times it is tough when you are not near the person to get things across the table in a clear manner.  I know sometimes I just get plain frustrated. 

 Stay in touch no matter what you do.

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Jeffrey P. Cornelius SR.
San Soo Michigan
5th degree black

Hey Mike,

When you first started posting I saw many things I agreed with (some I didn't), I wanted to know more about you so I checked with someone who knows you.  I heard nothing bad but the comment was, "he has a hard time finding which way he wants to go", I guess we all do sometimes.  My question to you would be, how in the world could you judge an Art by a forum.  You appear to be a thinker, you must understand there is vast difference between both instructors and schools ranging from brute force to very scientific triangulation strategy, energy transference, etc, both types finding what Grand Master referred to as their "own element".

Considering your age, intellect etc, you would do well if you found a school like the second I mentioned, just my thoughts.

Mike,

I just had an idea where you should  go, see Tim Cartmell, he is a San Soo Master he got his Brazilian black belt, is highly skilled in Pa Qua, Hsing Yi (spell ?), I Chuan (mind boxing).  He can teach in both Internal and External, Barbara and I used to get private lessons with him once a week, driving from San Diego because we wanted to expand to Internal Kung Fu.  He is a great and caring guy, I would never bet against him in a fight inside or outside the ring.  He has a school somewhere around Westminster, website is under Shen Wu.  If he does not meet your needs, give up the search because no one will.

Inrteresting Ron

 By your post I'm assuming you talked to my friend Paul as you mentioned you and him had a problem with SSS. Also your description of the class. I think Paul knows alot about the art and is a good instructor.I really like talking to Paul. I like Larry alot as well. 2 different schools. Two very differnt approaches. If I go to the NH school I'll see a different approach as well. I brought that up on the forum one time about going to different schools. Even made a post about why the teachings of the same subjects differ from teacher to teacher. In fact I think i even posted asking about what to look for at one time or another. I pretty sure someone felt insulted I asked.

 I'm sure if you dig hard enough you'll find negative things about me, but I can't think of anything I'd be ashamed of other than some of the bad tv i've done. Oh wait there are a few films as well. I'm easy to find and pretty forthright. Heck you know that as you emailed me the other day.. 

 I'm not judging the art of san soo. Thats important enough to repeat, I am not judging SAN SOO.There are things I really like about the system and things I have misgivings about the training. The reason I decided not to pursue the system at this time and am leaving the forums are because anytime, anyone questions the training or the system they are accused of judging, disrepecting, insulting and having the motives of just being an asshole. I have become much more contraversial on the forums than on any I've ever been on over really silly crap. It has sucked up too much of my time with no reward.

 I could ask the same questions or share similar POV's on systems like JKD or Krav  and find a much easier path.. There is a resistence or a mentality in kfss that I don't understand and there are other arts if I choose to train in that seem to be a better match for my mentality. From the forums I realized that I don't think the way the community thinks. Nothing more nothing less. Iam not judging the art or the people, it was simply my expirience.  As odd as it may seem to you I felt more comfortable on The A.S.S. forum because whenever I asked a question or offered a thought or observation, I didn't get treated like I was attacking the catholic church.

 Maybe I'll change my mind in the future, but for now I don't think so. I'm over it

 As soon as some of this settles down i'll be gone. Not a bad thing for all right Actually, it's over now

Take care Ron I hope things work out with the seminar and your videos. I wish you the best of luck

mike 

Sorry Jeff that this is on your board. Tried to unsubscribe last night but couldn't find the function. Take care. No more posts here or JP's board. Just seems to make things more complicated :)

 

 

 

 

Mike as I said I will not delte a post, but someting has my atrtention and that is a post written by Ken Fletcher on JP's site.  Understand Ken is a fellow student of one of the best down there in Tennessee.  Not only as a student and teacher also as a person for he is a kind  man in all apsect of his life.  If you have made some sort of reference towards Ken or Chuck than I will have to stop these posting.  I should had put it to some sort of halt when you had made mention of Ron and his beliefs.  You will support to whom ever you chose to do so and so will Ron, none of us has the right to make that choice for the other. 

 Now back to the Ken and Chuck thing you see Ken is also one of Chucks students as the same as I.  As any good troop worth their wieght in gold will stand up for what they believe in and we believe in our Teacher and that is Chuck Cory.  Rather what you believe, this is where I will not let anyone cross that line when it comes to my immediate family.  Not sure what you are trying too get out of any of the San Soo boards or forums.  But this thread will come to an end as of today.  If San Soo is not for you than leave it to the ones who do train in this art or stop by and lets have a work out, some lunch and call it a day.

 Ron is a Master of the first generation rather you respect that or not, we do.  Chuck is also a first generation master and my teacher.  Ken is a friend and one hell of a person, treading on any of the above is not a cool thing to do any more.  I am loyal to these gentleman and all others Ladies and getlemen of this art for they are family and apparenlty you will never understand this part of the art.  You do not take things that are true answer from all very qauilified instructors to include Jeff Woods who is one of the Doctors who pratice San Soo, than nick pick it apart..............

 I will not delete your name from the list of this message board but will delete anything that is not a cool thing to do and make things un-cool.

Keep the faith in what ever you believe and good luck to what ever you chose to do in the martial art world, at 49 you are running a close run with not being able to the simplest of moves in any art.  My opinion as a certified instructor who has train several; how many have you train to qualify you to disagree with any of what has been written?

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Jeffrey P. Cornelius SR.
San Soo Michigan
5th degree black

Thanks Jeff,

I feel the same about you and your students. Talk to you soon.

Kenneth